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Thanks, cannon. I'd assumed 'real' vs 'manipulated' would have been clear to the fellow. Obviously not....

And yet real income decreased under Carter but grew by more than 10% under Reagan and the ISM index was above 50 for his presidency. Another straw man little fella. I guess you're finished defending your OP....

I can give you some examples. Carter's economy was not built on low age jobs. He did not lie about his unemployment numbers by using "ketchup is a vegetable" math, leaving out any unemployed person not currently drawing benefits. He did not triple the national debt to artificially grow the economy. ...

This is not Cannon's op sweetie. I'll bite though. Please quantify this "real economy" of which you speak....

Your chart makes the affirmative claim that only 5.6 million jobs were created from 1978 to the present. Yet, you present other charts - as do I - crediting Reagan with 16 million jobs. That's nonsensical. Fun with numbers? I don't even know how to respond to something that makes no sense to me, an...

The Carter Presidency produced a better 'real' economy. Reagan's economy was propped up by borrowing. The trick is in taking out everything Reagan borrowed to boost the economy. Then you get to a place where apples to apples comparisons reside. Even Reagan came to the conclusion that his initial s...

Ironic you'd want to "consider things in context" when your OP, of which you were so proud, did no such thing and instead used raw GDP numbers. Carter was limited on how much he could borrow because of his stagflation. So in addition to your assertion being invalid because it's speculative, it's a...

Link? And be forewarned - I have the breakdown for Carter v Reagan as regards Full time v Part time - REAL jobs vs "ketchup is a vegetable" jobs. That's the problem with your hero Ronnie. All of his numbers have asterisks next to them. None of the results you laud him for really belong to him. RIG...

Lol...Reagan's job numbers in his second term were better than Carter's kiddo. So unless you have evidence that Carter's job numbers would have been the same in a potential second term you're just posturing and trying to fudge the data. If you want to have a discussion about Reagan's deficit spe...

Excellent explanation of why Reagan's "good" economy was a mirage. Reagan tripled the debt, ushering in the current era of big spending and taxing the unborn. The Von Mises Institute ranks Reagan very low - here's a paragraph that gives you a hint of the flavor: http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.a...